How much horsepower would you put in a 1,800 pound car? (816 kg)

"Noodles" (hilgyjeep) 01/20/2017 at 01:18 • Filed to: Saab

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This Saab Sonett weighs in at 1,764 lbs (800 kg). I don’t feel like you would have to go above 250 hp to have a pretty fun car. What would you throw in there???

TheHondaBro > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:21

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Noodles > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 01:22

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That’s a lot.

InFierority Complex > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:26

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Turbo 2.0l Lampredi Twin Cam? This is just under 200hp, but it would do I think.

Saab and Lancia acutally worked together a little in the 80s as well. The Delta was rebadged as the Saab 600 for the Swedish market

Flavien Vidal > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:26

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My father’s A110 is around 140hp for 700kg. It’s a great combination. My car is around 185hp for 950kg... It’s pretty good too.

I guess, ideally, I would go a bit over that and say 190hp for 800kg would be perfect.

TheHondaBro > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:27

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“No.”

-Cargo shorts

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:27

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I think 2(hp):3(lbs) is a good ratio. My Juke is 188hp/2912lbs, so it’s that perfect ratio. Going by that rule it have to be around 120hp for me.

Noodles > Flavien Vidal 01/20/2017 at 01:33

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Good answer.

Noodles > InFierority Complex 01/20/2017 at 01:35

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Turbo 4 is about the perfect amount of power.

Berang > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:37

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Rotary.

The big problem is space, so you need a very short engine.

Maybe a Porsche flat 6.

RonnyPStiggs > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:38

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Since it originally came with a Ford V4, I think one of these crate engines would be perfect. It’s 1650cc, and I think it has 180HP. Would be an amazing screamer in an 1800lb. car. 

Noodles > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 01:38

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Cargo Shorts>Speedo

Noodles > RonnyPStiggs 01/20/2017 at 01:39

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You are absolutely correct.

Noodles > Berang 01/20/2017 at 01:41

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Boxer is a good idea.

Nick Has an Exocet > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:42

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I’ve heard its pretty easy to twist the frames on these without additional bracing.

Modern engines have so much area under the curve, any modern T4 would be great.

Berang > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:43

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Air cooled would work because there’s not enough space for a radiator with a six cylinder.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:43

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Ford 1 liter Ecoboost.

Noodles > Nick Has an Exocet 01/20/2017 at 01:47

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Yeah, a roll cage for stability would be needed

Noodles > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 01/20/2017 at 01:51

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Not a bad choice considering what they put it in

Hoccy > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 01:54

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2-stroke rally engine

Noodles > Hoccy 01/20/2017 at 01:58

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Every time I see that video, I want to buy an old Saab.

bob and john > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 02:13

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yamaha Vmax V4.

1700cc, 175HP, 113ft-lbs of torque

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 02:25

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Dat bolt pattern doe

Noodles > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 02:36

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For anything under 2000 lbs, the correct answer is Japanese cycle engine

Noodles > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 01/20/2017 at 02:38

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I’m not against throwing a Ferrari V8 in there.

John-Palazzo > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 04:56

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While it’s way more power than what I would personally go for, Synergy V8. Hella expensive, better options out there, no torque whatsoever, but 2.0 V8 that revs up to 14.000 RPM.

bingham123 > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 06:00

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first choice, mazda rotary. second choice, probably 1000cc+ sports bike engine. third choice, turbo beetle engine  

random001 > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 06:56

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All of it.

duurtlang > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 07:08

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My ‘88 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6 weighs about the same. It’s got 105 hp, which is absolutely enough to make it fun. This does depend on the engine and its characteristics (and chassis), this engine turns my car into something that acts like a very eager puppy. I’d get something with maybe 130-150 hp tops. Maybe a Honda VTEC or some kind Saab turbo 4 from the 90s or so?

I doubt the 1960s FWD chassis will be comfortable with a lot of power anyway, I assume you want this car to be a great driver and not some kind of torque steering monster that’s fast in theory but horrible to actually drive.

E90M3 > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 07:40

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How about the Ferrari V8 out of this? It’s got right around 200hp, plus it’s also FWD so it should swap right in, right?

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 07:58

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I want to P100D my 2400LB Corvair. So probably about that much.

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 08:33

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250??? Holy shit I’d do like half that. 250 would completely overwhelm the little car.

DipodomysDeserti > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 08:35

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As much as possible? Is this a trick question?

interstate366, now In The Industry > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 09:07

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Supercharged K20A. Good for about 275/250.

Noodles > duurtlang 01/20/2017 at 11:58

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I’d probably swap the axels for miata parts and for rwd. But it still wouldn’t take much power to have fun

Noodles > bingham123 01/20/2017 at 11:58

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3 good answers

Noodles > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/20/2017 at 11:59

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That is true.

duurtlang > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 12:08

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Standard Miata engine would be absolutely fine.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 16:17

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LSA OR NOTHING!!

That is 556 hp or 1:3 power to weight

bingham123 > Noodles 01/20/2017 at 19:23

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I would even run the rotary n/a...... Maybe..

Noodles > CaptDale - is secretly British 01/21/2017 at 00:31

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I was wondering how long it would take to get the LS answer. As long as the wheels, tires, and brake are upgraded to .....

CaptDale - is secretly British > Noodles 01/23/2017 at 11:27

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*TOO

but then it wouldn’t be a real American sports car with too much power, wobbly suspension, and cheese for brakes.

RT > Noodles 02/11/2017 at 04:28

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What you’re basically saying is, ‘I don’t want a car with ~300bhp/ton’.

And to be honest that makes sense, since anything above 250bhp/ton becomes a bit too wild for daily driving. The 205 1.9 GTi weighed around 875kg and only had 126bhp - but it is still one of the most fun cars you can drive today.

Basically, reasons like this are why Miata is always the answer.

AdverseMartyr > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/27/2017 at 03:57

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My thought as well.